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Uppsy Daisy
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Posted - 2016.02.23 17:31:33 -
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CCP Phantom wrote:Team Security comes with interesting news - as always! This time we clarify the use of third party tools and overlays. Additionally we have an ISK Buyer Amnesty available under certain conditions! Read more about these interesting news in the latest dev blog from Team Security Overlays, ISK Buyer Amnesty and Account Security
Really great work on eliminating RMT!!
But the rest of this blog is just so vague! Even the 'useful summaries' are not useful.
Quote:e.g. GÇïGÇïGÇïIn short: Do NOT use any tools/applications/modifications which either modify the client in any way OR provide you any kind of unfair benefit/advantage.
What is an unfair benefit/advantage?
Is using EFT or PYFA an unfair benefit/advantage?
Is using a spreadsheet to help with industry calculations an unfair benefit/advantage?
Is using a more tailored app like Eve Mentat or ISK per hour an unfair benefit/advantage?
This really needs clarifying properly!
Quote:We may, in our discretion, tolerate the use of applications or other software that simply enhance player enjoyment in a way that maintains fair gameplay.
AS LONG AS itGÇÖs fair to everybody - neither you nor anybody else gets any unfair advantage GÇô we are fine with it.
Again, what is unfair benefit/advantage?
What applications are tolerated and what are not?
There are some very advanced applications that use the CREST API to make industry much more viable to their users - in fact I would say that if you don't use a tool, doing manufacturing profitably is very difficult. They certainly give benefits and advantages but are they fair?
CCP please help me understand. |
Uppsy Daisy
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Posted - 2016.02.23 19:25:33 -
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Tau Cabalander wrote:Several of the posted questions should be petitioned instead.
When your account gets banned, it is helpful to be able to refer to GM replies. Make sure to backup any GM replies so they are accessible outside of the game client. Leave the petitions in your inbox too, so CCP can find them if they go missing from their account logs.
Been there. Done that. Have the scars, and I am so paranoid now that I won't even do things CCP has explicitly told me are OK.
Why not help us all by telling us what is illegal and what not, even if its just 'in your experience'?
I understand the legal stuff needs to be vague to cast as wide a net as possible, but 'unfair advantage' is too vague, surely!?
As others have mentioned, some might consider owning two accounts to be unfair, but I'm sure CCP appreciates the additional income.
Quote:Most of you really need to go back and re-read the devblog. You should also read the EULA and ToS. So many people jumping to conclusions that would be cleared up by actually reading it all properly.
CCP can not comment on individual third party programs. They have no control over them. The majority of third-party programs do not break the EULA themselves, however they can be used to break the EULA and that is a crucial distinction people need to understand.
Asking if this program or that program is in violation of the EULA is a question that can not be answered. Its what you are doing with the program thats important.
Ok I tried, but the link to EULA in the dev blog is broken...
Help us understand! You says it's what we are doing with the program that's important, tell us what actions are illegal and what are not! |
Uppsy Daisy
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Posted - 2016.02.23 19:36:15 -
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Intel that you have and I do not is surely an unfair advantage!!
BAN
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Uppsy Daisy
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Posted - 2016.02.24 00:14:22 -
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Tau Cabalander wrote:If it otherwise can't be done via the supplied client, I personally don't try to get around that.
No EFT/PYFA ?!
The in game fitting tools are literally a joke.. Be serious now.
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Uppsy Daisy
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Posted - 2016.02.24 08:50:00 -
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Ghenghis Kralj wrote:Here is an idea. Does your 3rd party software interfere with client code?
If yes, ban.
If no, carry on.
Is a 3rd party software so popular that players are willing to spend real money in addition to subscription? If so, maybe that's the world telling you that your game needs that feature. I think you have listened well when it comes to the game launcher, but window management, in game tools, and in game window arrangements are lacking enough that people are paying a significant amount to fix that for ya.
Thumbs up for the first person to make a genuine suggestion.
This is the kind of additional detail that would make it easier for the player base to know if they are breaking the rules.
'Unfair advantage' is just too vague.
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